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| www.StopKaz.com | Claims |
The first thing that struck me when trying to do online research about "Dr. Kaz deMille Jacobsen" and her many claims was the nearly total lack of information about her on the World Wide Web.
This lack of corroborating information was not positive proof of anything, but was a big "red flag" to me. I felt that if this woman had done even a fraction of the things she claims to have done (traveled with first families, been an "official" spiritual advisor to presidents, advised world leaders, founded and owned several prosperous businesses and international non-profit organizations, etc), there would be many more references to her on the worldwide web, no matter how "private" a person she claims to be.
Adding to the difficulty in researching many of her claims was the nearly total lack of detail information (the name of her company, names of co-workers who perished, etc) in her account, information that would help to prove (or disprove) her story.
Also - I am identifying the issues on this page as "Claims" by Kaz, but it is important to note that they mostly consist of:
It has been difficult to find any first-hand claims. She seems to have an aversion to having her speeches video or audio taped (I have been told that she has forbidden it on more than one occasion), and I am not aware of any written accounts she has given of most of her claims.
Added Mar 1, 2005: Since originally writing this page, I have received several audio and video tapes of "Kaz," some of which are discussed on this site's Sources page. I hope to incorporate them into this page at a later date.-RL
Some questions that should be asked:
Is there so little information on the web about her because she is a "private person," or because she is not what she claims to be?
Is the lack of supporting detail in her stories a coincidence, or is she intentionally vague on details in order to make her claims more difficult to disprove?
Is the lack of first-hand accounts of her claims due to some sense of modesty, or is it an attempt to prevent documentation that could be used against her in a court of law?
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List of Claims |
Examine some of her claims, and then the evidence - what there is of it - and see what you think.
Claim #1: That her name is "Kaz deMille-Jacobsen"
Claim #2: That she is a "Doctor"
Claim #3: That she is a granddaughter of Cecil B. deMille, the famous film director
Claim #4: That she owned a company worth over $170,000,000, headquartered in the North Tower of the World Trade Center.
Claim #5: That she was an official spiritual adviser to George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton before him.
Claim #6: That she was in the North Tower of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001
Claim #7: That she was given a rock by Jesus.
Claim #8: That she was miraculously healed of life-threatening wounds, and of leukemia.
Other Claims
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Claim #1: That her name is "Kaz deMille-Jacobsen" |
It may seem odd to doubt a person when they tell you their name. But here, there is ample room for confusion and doubt.
I have seen legal documents that are purported to be about her, in which she is named as "Catrina Rochelle deMille".
But I have also seen references to her as:
- Kaz deMille
- Kaz Jacobsen
- Kaz deMille-Jacobsen
- Kaz deMille-Jacobson
- Kaz Jacobsen-deMille
- Kaz Jacobson-deMille
- Kaz deMille-Lawford
- Kaz Jacobsen-Lavell
- K. A. (Kaz) deMille
- K. J. (Kaz) deMille
- Koral Deague
- Coral Deague
- Karolanne Victoria Jane Seaborne-Lavell
Obviously, she can't be held accountable for all the different ways people have referred to her, nor variations in their spelling of "Jacobsen/on". And I don't know for a fact how many of these names she actually used herself.
But the question remains - why so many different names? Are these names from various marriages? Or does she go by various names at various times and places?
Is this legal? I know that a person must use their legal name when signing certain documents, but beyond that, I don't know the legalities of going by various names.
It is interesting to note that multiple names are part of a con artist's stock in trade, as they move from scam to scam.
So, I really do not know which (if any) of these is the woman's real name. I don't know if anybody (other than her) does know.
For the sake of simplicity, I am referring to her, within this web site, as "Kaz" (with the quotation marks).
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Claim #2: That she is a "Doctor" |
She has a doctorate of what?
Obtained from what university, in what year?
Once again, no detail is provided to back this claim up, making it difficult to prove or disprove.
But it is interesting to note that she doesn't always use the "Dr." title.
It should also be mentioned that con artists frequently use false titles (such as "Dr.", "Reverend" and "General") in order to give themselves an unearned and undeserved air of authority and expertise.
Read the email from Kaz on the Sources page of this site, and see if it strikes you as having been written by someone who has earned a doctorate degree.
Added Nov 14. 2004:
On the tape of her October 24th appearance at the King's Way Community Church, "Kaz" was introduced as "Reverend Kaz deMille-Jacobsen." I don't know if she has dropped the "Dr." title, nor - if she has dropped it - if she did so in reaction to this web site.
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Claim #3: That she is a granddaughter of Cecil B. deMille, the famous film director. |
Why would someone lie about this?
Fraudulently claiming to be related to someone famous is nothing new. This type of scam has been around as long as there have been famous people to lie about.
There is something about celebrity that many people find exciting. To one degree or another, they feel that meeting a celebrity (or even a celebrity's relative) in some way makes them a little more "special" themselves.
This makes many people let their guard down in order to get closer to this supposed relative, leaving them just a little more open to being taken advantage of.
Con artists have long realized this, and some of them capitalize on this very human tendency.
An example: The film "Six Degrees of Separation" (and the play of the same name) was inspired by the actual case of David Hampton, a young con artist who insinuated himself into the lives of many upper-class New York families, in part by claiming to be the son of actor Sidney Poitier. Dazzled by his (false) connection to a famous and respected man, they let him into their homes.
Is this what "Kaz" is doing? Falsely claiming a blood relation to a famous person?
In doing research on "Kaz", I contacted three separate descendants of Cecil B. deMille. The first two (one of whom "Kaz" sometimes claims to be her half-sister) had never heard of the woman. The third was aware of "Kaz" and some of her claims, but quite emphatically said "...she is no way related to our family and any stories she tells about her relationship with the family are fabricated."
"Kaz" claims that the deMilles want no part of her because she was an illegitimate child in the family, adopted out as an infant.
Outside of a DNA test, there is no way to concretely prove this one way or another from a legal standpoint. But in light of the doubts cast on all of "Kaz's" other claims, I find this one to be, at best, highly questionable.
On at least two occasions, attorneys representing the deMille family have presented "Kaz" with letters demanding that she stop claiming, implicitly or explicitly, that she is in any way connected to the deMille family.
It is interesting to note that when "Kaz" speaks in public, she generally does not make this claim anymore. It is only in private that this, and some of her other claims are made. In this way, perhaps she hopes to be able to claim in a court of law that she never said any such thing. However, I have spoken with no less than five people who say they personally heard her make the claim.
Two of these people said that later, "Kaz" backpedaled on this, saying that she had never made any such claim.
All of this, along with the patience and graciousness with which all three deMille family members treated me (when I intruded into their lives with questions about this woman), leaves little room for doubt in my mind: "Kaz" is no relation to them.
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Claim #4: That she owned a company worth over $170,000,000, headquartered in the North Tower of the World Trade Center. |
The most obvious question that this claim brings to mind is: WHAT company?
As with many of the statements and claims made by "Kaz," this one becomes difficult to check out, because she does not provide enough information to properly research the claim.
She talks much of this company, and how she was getting ready to "hand over the reins" of it to a partner. She talks of the meeting, of her secretary, of the co-workers whose lives were supposedly lost, but as far as I can tell, she never gives the name of the company - an odd omission, and one fact that would be relatively simple to confirm.
Again: if she owned such a company, wouldn't there be references to that ownership on the web?
One report says that the company won "multiple AME Awards." (AME Awards are advertising industry awards for outstanding ad campaigns). There are no references to any of "Kaz's" names in a list of AME winners on www.ameawards.com. And, since we don't know the purported company's name, we can't look that up.
Added Nov 14. 2004:
On the two most recent sources I have for her claims, it is clearer that "Kaz" does not claim that the business she owned was headquartered in the World Trade Center, but instead that this (purported) business was simply holding a meeting there.
She still has not said the name of this company.
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Claim #5: That she was an official spiritual adviser to George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton before him. |
Once again, there is no evidence of this claim.
Here is a quote from an email sent by "Kaz", on April 12th, 2004:
"I then leave on the 20th to join Mr. President, the first family and their family and friends to give this testimony."
Where are the news reports of this testimony? Or simply reports of her being with the First Family? Do you think that the White House press corps would simply ignore someone with such an amazing story, especially someone connected to 9/11?
The email continues…
"I am also officially resigning from the post I have had the honor to hold three years with Clinton two with George Bush. Advisory capacity. Although I did resign just after my recovery of 9/11, I have to sign the formal paper work."
Is there such an "official post? " Certainly, some presidents have had advisors on spiritual and religious matters over the years, but is this an official post that someone has to sign "formal paper work" to resign from? Not that I can find.
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Claim #6: That she was in the North Tower of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001 |
Her details about this vary from account to account, and so again, the claim is difficult to verify or refute.
But here are a few telling facts:
In most versions of her story, she claims to have been in the elevator on the 96th floor when the plane struck the tower.
So far, I have not been able to find any evidence of any survivors from the North Tower attack who had been above the 91st floor.
I have also talked to someone who heard "Kaz" make the claim that as she and her secretary were getting into the elevator after the supposed meeting, she ("Kaz") looked out of the elevator and, as the elevator doors were closing, could "see the airplane coming toward the building."
Were there elevators in the tower from which such a view would be possible? Although I have not found detailed floor plans of the towers, what I have found seems to indicate that the elevators were in the center of the building (as is usual with skyscrapers). A verbal description from the following site seems to indicate that is the case with the WTC towers:
Source: "http://www.jracademy.com/~warcholj/reports/twr_gz/gz2.html
"Each of the floors in towers 1 and 2 were 208X208 feet. The 'inner box' in the center of each floor, which held the elevators and bathrooms and the central support beams, was 135 x 85 feet."
And even if the elevators had been located and positioned so that such a view was possible: If she had seen the airplane coming, from the 101st floor (where she usually claims to have entered the elevator), would she have lived to tell about it?
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Claim #7: That she was given a rock by Jesus. |
I was not going to address any of "Kaz's" spiritual/religious claims, since most of them are of a type that cannot be proved to be true or false. However, since she claims to have actual proof of this one, I will include it here.
She claims not only that she was injured during the attack on the World Trade Center, but that afterwards, while in a coma in a hospital, she became clinically dead, went to heaven, and met God and Jesus. She claims that while she was there, Jesus gave her a rock.
She then claims that when she awoke in her hospital bed, she had that rock in her hand.
She claims that this rock was given to NASA scientists who examined it, and declared that it was neither of this earth, nor of the moon.
First, as I have mentioned earlier, there seems to be no proof of her even having been in one of the World Trade Center towers on that day. To my knowledge, she hasn't named the hospital where she claims to have stayed, nor the doctors or nurses who she claims cared for her there over a period of months (who at least may theoretically be able to confirm that she had been in the hospital, and that she had a rock of some sort at the time).
Regardless of any of that, if there were such a rock, and it was given to "NASA scientists," is there any report from those scientists? Is there any sort of article in a newspaper about a mysterious rock they examined? All religious significance aside, if they had found a rock of such mysterious origins, wouldn't there be some mention of it somewhere?
That is, of course, unless NASA scientists were shown a meteorite. Meteorites can accurately be described as "neither of this earth, nor of the moon", and it is a simple matter to purchase a meteorite on eBay, and many other places.
As with all of her claims, all we have here is "Kaz's" word. No proof.
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Claim #8: That she was miraculously healed of life-threatening wounds, and of leukemia. |
Without medical tests taken both before and after the "cure," all we are left with is "Kaz's" word.
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Other Claims |
There are many other claims that have been attributed to "Kaz." Rather than examine each individually, I will list them here, and simply note that I have yet to find any evidence that any of them are true:
That she is the daughter of actor Peter Lawford
Source: Several eyewitnesses.That she was a minister in the New Zealand Government
Source: "Somaliland" article (See Sources page).That she was once married to a "famous race car driver" who beat her, so she left him.
Source: Eyewitness.That she was once married to Mario Andretti's brother, who tragically died during a race in Monaco.
Source: Eyewitness.That she has been an adviser to many "world leaders".
Source: Email from "Kaz" (See Sources page).That she was a keynote speaker at a Littleton Colorado service commemorating the Columbine High School shootings, and 1,600 people converted to Christianity upon hearing her story.
Source: Several eyewitnesses.That she was the keynote speaker at the unveiling of a "Ten Commandments Monument" in Colorado, in a ceremony with the governor of Colorado, five senators and Judge Roy Moore.
Source: Email from "Kaz" (See Sources page).That she was married to singer Fabian, and had two children by him.
Source: Memo regarding interview with eyewitness.That she co-wrote the film "Sleepless in Seattle" under a nom-de-plume.
Source:Memo regarding interview with eyewitness.That she has won various Oscars, Emmys and AME awards.
Source: Eyewitnesses and various reports.Return to List of Claims.
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